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A lot of Abe's speeches were pretty stunning, pithy and to the point. At that time this was pretty radical cos verbosity was in vogue. they still impress today and politicians study them. Only drawback with the Gettysburg address is that it is so well known that it has become a bit hackneyed.

Many years ago I had a book from a local library about the ceremony at Gettysburg with the emphasis on Lincoln's speech. It seems that there were about four different versions issued to newspaper editors and others who requested copies shortly after the occaision, so that we don't know exactly what was said. They differ in the details. Lincoln was only clutching a scrap of paper with his notes on, it wasn't read word for word.

Also the book argued that the park marker is not in the correct place for WHERE the official stand was set-up and the speeches delivered. Historians have studied old photographs and conclude that the actual spot was a couple of hundred metres away.

There is the civil war round table who spend their time on discussions about such matters. On this forum I find, we tend to get very standard opinions or pointless arguments and disagreements, which doesn't advance us very far. Pehaps we should save it for the camp fire, though in theory we could only discuss early/pre war matters -the boys wern't blessed with pre-cognition.

Andy.